What To Expect When Moving from LA to NYC

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Each year, 9.8% of Americans move—and a third of those relocate to a new state. So if you’re thinking about moving from Los Angeles to New York City, you’re in good company.

But before you ditch the idyllic temps and less-than-idyllic traffic of L.A. for the skyscrapers and snowstorms of NYC, there are some key details to think through: 

  • How much does a cross-country move cost?
  • What exactly does a cross-country relocation entail?
  • What does it mean for your car?

As someone who grew up in L.A., I understand all of the amazing qualities of this sprawling city, but I also know why, after a while, you might want to try something new. After all, New York City is a big place, with 8 million people, 5 boroughs, and about 3,000 “best slice” spots. Here’s what I learned on my move.

From Coast to Coast: What You Need To Know When Moving from LA to NYC

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As Frank Sinatra crooned, “If you can make it here, you’ll make it anywhere.” Of course, that implies it takes some fortitude to make it in NYC. (As a Los Angelino, you’ve already got that in spades.) 

Here are a few key differences to consider between the two cities:

  • Transportation: Los Angeles is a driving-centric town; you must have your own vehicle in L.A. But the traffic is atrocious, and it takes so long to get anywhere that you really have to think hard before every RSVP. NYC is all about walking, but the subway is always there as a backup. Although the multicolored Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) map might seem daunting at first, you’ll quickly get to know your local route, and your knowledge from memorizing overnight switchovers and deciphering the conductor’s messages will only grow.
  • “The Vibe”: There might be some culture shock if you’re used to laid-back vibes. They say that New Yorkers are mean and rude and, well, some people are! But to be fair, you can find gruff people anywhere. Both cities offer diverse communities who will likely love to chat about their favorite brunch spots, fitness fads, and what they love or hate about their town.
  • Weather: Are you sure you want to give up the beach? OK, to be fair, you don’t exactly have to! NYC offers access to Coney Island, the Rockaways, and the Hamptons, providing a variety of beach escapes with different vibes. The big change is that you only get to enjoy NYC beaches for a few months out of the year. Then again, there’s something to be said for adding chic coats to your wardrobe.

la to nycWhat’s the cost of living in NYC vs. L.A.?

One thing that New Yorkers love to talk about is how much everything costs. So, let’s talk about money. 

NYC has one of the nation’s highest median incomes: $87,745. 

However, you should also consider that rising housing costs and the overall cost of living counteract some of those take-home benefits. One study shows that when today’s median household income is adjusted against county cost of living, New York County ranks very poorly: No. 3,105 in the U.S.

So, you can’t simply ask, “Is it cheaper to live in L.A. or NYC?” It’s important to really take into account your own lifestyle and the factors that might impact your take-home pay—everything from groceries to movie theater tickets. Both L.A. and NYC are unsurprisingly among the most expensive cities in the United States; L.A. ranks No. 7, Brooklyn comes in at No. 4, and Manhattan owns the dubious honor of No. 1. 

See fast facts below, based on the latest findings from the Council for Community and Economic Research.

  • Typical Monthly Rent (across all rentals):
    • Manhattan: $4,604 
    •  Brooklyn: $3,532
    •  Los Angeles: $2,717
  • Median Home Value:
    • Manhattan: $2.4M
    • Brooklyn: $734,800
    • Los Angeles: $670,700
  • Grocery Premiums:
    • Manhattan: 44% above the national average
    • Brooklyn: 11%
    • Los Angeles: 26%
  • Transportation:
    • Manhattan: 18% above the national average
    • Brooklyn: 11%
    • Los Angeles: 10%

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Moving to “Post-COVID-19” NYC

A few things have changed about living in New York since 2020, several of which might inform a move to NYC. 

One factor is that renters in NYC might need to pay broker fees again. These fees, which can range from one month’s rent to 15% of annual rent, were briefly prohibited in 2020. However, that is a “might”, because it’s possible to sort listings so that only no-fee apartments are displayed in your searches. In some cases, the amount itself may be negotiable, but this is something to discuss with a broker up-front.

 

“Consider that the 40-hour drive from LA to NYC takes about four days on average to complete—and that’s with an average vehicle, not a large moving truck.”

 

Another thing is that prices have steeply increased from the all-time lows of the pandemic. Not only are NYC prices rising, but it’s made bidding on apartments pretty fierce. Prospective renters might offer to pay over the asking rate, sign leases sight unseen, put down deposits in cash, and do other things that would’ve seemed crazy year ago. While competitive, you probably aren’t used to competition this fierce in LA.

How to ensure you get an apartment in NYC

What helps most is to know exactly what you’re looking for so that you know it when you see it, and that you’re ready to act.

Have all of your paperwork on hand so that you can apply for an apartment right away; typical documents include pay stubs (or similar proof of employment), records from the past year’s tax returns, and proof of the money that’s currently in your bank account (or other assets you hold).

The Mover’s Guide for How To Get From Here (L.A.) to There (NYC)

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You’ve made your decision to pack up and head off to the opposite coast. Congrats! Now it’s time for the actual moving part. Although it’s impossible to provide one guide that will suit every situation, this at-a-glance overview offers useful and comprehensive tips for moving to NYC.

How to get your move out of L.A. started

It’s not really possible nowadays to simply decide you’re leaving today. Several experts recommend booking movers two months ahead of your trip, but this is a general rule.  Given this is a long-distance move, you might want to start as far back as three months, especially if you’ll be moving during the busy summer season, which books up fast!

Pack now!

When a friend of mine moved to NYC recently, she started planning a few months out and felt pretty confident, but looking back, she says she could have benefitted from a little extra time to double-check everything, pack a little earlier and slower, and itemize and appraise some of her belongings. Case in point: a few of her boxes went missing. But she had difficulty holding her movers accountable — she wasn’t 100% certain about what specifically was lost because she’d marked them down broadly (i.e., “Kitchen”).

You need to look at NYC places well in advance

Unfortunately, housing inventory doesn’t show up online too far in advance of its availability in NYC. At best, you might see it listed a month early, but that might not feel like a lot of time to find somewhere to live, put in an application, and get everything in order while also planning your move. 

 

“With moving containers, you pack all your stuff up and have it driven cross-country for you!”

 

Consider a temporary location, like an Airbnb

This is why some people find temporary places to stay at first or lease places without ever visiting them. If possible, schedule a weekend trip to NYC about a month ahead of your move and plan long days with back-to-back viewings until you find a place. For this to succeed, you might want to enlist a broker and develop a relationship so that they understand your needs.

Tips to make your NYC move-in day smoother

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While moving days anywhere might have their little quirks depending on the city, here are some NYC-specific tips for the big day. 

Check and double-check your apartment measurements

Many New York buildings are old (like remodeled tenements), and even new builds are often atypical in size and shape to make the most of limited square footage (Ever hear of “shoebox” apartments?). Measure:

  • Your doorways (they are not all standard)
  • Halls (especially corners)
  • Stairwells (plus, count the flights if it’s a walk-up)

Make sure you can actually get everything into your apartment before you put so much effort into moving your items to NYC!

For move-in, you might need to show your building proof that your movers are insured

This protects the building in the event that any damage occurs to stairwells, hallways, and the like so forth, during the move-in process. Professional moving companies are used to being asked about this, but it might cost a small fee to request a copy of their proof of insurance. (Tip: If the building doesn’t bring this up, don’t ask!)

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How to haul all your stuff to NYC

You have a few options for getting yourself (and all your belongings) to NYC:

  • Do-It-Yourself: Some people think the main advantage of DIY is saving money, but this may or may not be true depending on how you go about it. Consider that the 40-hour drive from LA to NYC takes about four days on average to complete — and that’s with an average vehicle, not a large moving truck. You’ll have to think about paying for gas across about 2,800 miles. And if you park at hotels and motels along the way, you’ll want to make sure your worldly belongings stay secure in your truck while you sleep.
  • All-In-One/Full-Service: Many people enjoy using moving services that do packing, move-out, transport, move-in, and unpacking (or some combination of those options). The obvious perk is convenience because it lets you focus on other aspects of the move. However, it’s important to find a company you trust, since they’re handling every element of your move. 
  • Shipping Containers: A solution like PODS might be ideal for moving to NYC, because PODS gives you both storage and moving in one service, and you only have to load and unload one time. With moving containers, you pack all your stuff up and have it driven cross-country for you! Once your containers get to New York, you have the option to leave them in storage for as long as you need while you find a place to live and get yourself settled. Then, once you’re ready, you just book your container delivery and unload everything into your new place.

How much does it cost to move from L.A. to NYC?

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First of all, give yourself time to price-shop! Do your research, compare prices, and don’t be afraid to bring other company quotes to places you prefer and ask them to match them. 

And don’t assume all moving companies are the same. Some are definitely more trustworthy and experienced than others.

Remember my friend whose items got “lost” when moving to NYC? She later learned that other complaints about that company losing belongings were buried on Google. With a little more time spent, she would have turned those up before losing her entire jewelry box while trying to save a few bucks.

The great thing is that most websites offer free quotes based on your specific details. Here are a few quotes that I turned up for each of the options above using exact NYC addresses:

  • DIY (Rent and Drive a Truck Yourself): $179–$219 (per day, truck rental) + $1,088 (total gas, assuming an average moving truck’s MPG and current national gas price average as of September 2022)
  • Full-Service: $4,290–$7,280
  • Shipping Containers: $3,368–$4,420

The main takeaway is that while the DIY and shipping container options look a lot cheaper than full-service, when all is said and done, the final numbers may not be so far off from each other. It all depends on which company you use, whether or not you choose to drive, how long you take to drive if you choose to, and little add-ons like getting insurance, permits, or adding moving labor

Rather than concentrate entirely on the price tag, decide what really works best for your move — then pursue the best company and a fair price.

What’s the best time of year to move to NYC?

la to nyc moveGenerally, it’s cheaper to move during winter months and holiday weekends when fewer people are moving and demand is lower. 

Demand is highest during a few peak dates in New York City: June 1 or 15 and September 1 or 15.

On and around those dates, it’s more difficult to find movers and rental trucks. But in NYC, there’s more to consider. For example, if you move into a high-rise building, you’ll often need to reserve special parking spots for move-in trucks (loading zones), and you might need to reserve the building’s freight elevators for furniture and big boxes. 

Parking slots can fill up on prime move-in days, meaning that even if your lease is starting on June 1, if you can’t reserve parking and elevators, you might need to bring some of your things on another day in order to meet the building’s move-in policies and codes. If you’re moving into a more relaxed building, these might not be concerns.

Remember, consider available apartment inventory. If you choose a month when fewer people are moving out, there might be fewer vacancies for you to choose from.

“…if you move into a high-rise building, you’ll often need to reserve special parking spots for move-in trucks…and you might need to reserve the building’s freight elevators for furniture and big boxes.”

 

Do I need a car in NYC?

This is a question that always gets asked, and there are, unfortunately, only three real answers:

  • Sell it. Some people have cars in NYC, but the hassle of parking it is typically not worth the convenience of having it. Renting spaces can be anywhere from $200–$500 per month, while street parking requires moving your car to alternate sides of the road almost every day to avoid getting a ticket.
  • Tow it. If you’re driving yourself across the country, you can easily tow your car behind the truck and bring it with you.
  • Drive it. If your belongings are being moved separately, you could take a nice, long road trip and see more of the U.S. Don’t forget to factor in today’s gas prices and your car’s mileage.

How much money should I save before moving to NYC?

It’s hard to give an exact number to save up before you make your move since that figure really depends on where you’re going and what your rent situation will be. But I can give you a list of factors that can help you come up with a number that makes sense.

You’ll need to have enough money to cover:

  • Moving costs (see above)
  • First month’s rent
  • Last month’s rent
  • Security deposit (which is typically equivalent to a month’s rent)
  • Tipping your movers: Make a good impression by tipping your doormen, movers, and anyone who helps you get settled. They will remember, and it will go a long way toward ensuring a more pleasant acclimation period.
  • Cabs/takeout/extras: When you move, you’ll be exhausted, and you’ll spend a few days ordering takeout and taking cars everywhere instead of walking. This is one of those rare times it really does help to throw money at the problem—pad your budget just enough.

All in all, you’re easily looking at ~$5,000+ estimate for moving from L.A. to NYC. That’s between a rental truck or moving service, first and last month’s rent, and other miscellaneous costs. (Even the most extreme DIY scenario will still net a couple grand in expenses.)

Of course, it’s always good to add some buffer in there to cover the extras that are sure to come up. Nothing makes you feel more like a New Yorker than a crazy curveball thrown at you at the moment you least expect it.

Hopefully, this advice helps you feel more confident about moving from L.A. to NYC. Now all you need to do is take the leap.


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The Stuff That’s Illegal To Bring Into New York

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The Freedom Tower. The Statue of Liberty. The City That Never Sleeps. Such are the images of possibility and promise that New York evokes.

At the same time, the state’s many strict and sometimes convoluted laws can turn your east coast dream into a nightmare in (ahem) a New York minute. To help you move to the Empire State with confidence—and without legal troubles—take a few minutes to familiarize yourself with what you can (and can’t) transport into your new home state.

New York Alcohol Laws

Generally, there are no prohibitions against transporting alcohol into New York state for your personal use. The thing to note here is that open containers are illegal in New York if they are anywhere within reach of the driver’s seat. This includes in the hands (or in the laps, or under the feet) of other passengers. 

What counts as an “open container”?

A container does not have to be open to being deemed “an open container”; a bottle that has been opened is an open container, even if the cap has been screwed tightly back on. On top of this, it doesn’t matter if the vehicle is moving or parked—the law applies at all times on all public roads (and parking lots).

Open containers are only legal to have in your vehicle if they are in the trunk or, if there’s no trunk, back behind the seat furthest from the driver. As an extra tip, we’d advise not even having an empty container in your vehicle, as that can be enough for a police officer to start asking questions and possibly perform a full DWI investigation, which is no fun even if you are sober.

New York Animal and Pet Laws

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Like most (if not all) states, New York requires a Certificate of Veterinary Inspection (CVI) for all dogs and cats brought into New York

According to the state’s website, your pet’s CVI must be issued within 30 days prior to entry into New York. When applicable, your CVI must also include rabies vaccination information. In addition, New York state requires your dog or dogs to be licensed “immediately” with your local municipality.

To get your dog licensed in New York, click here.

Which animals can I bring to New York City?

In addition to dogs and cats, animals that New York City allows to be kept as pets include:

  • Domesticated rabbits and horses
  • Gerbils, hamsters, guinea pigs, chinchillas, other small animals
  • Parakeets, parrots, pigeons, canaries, hens or female chickens, other small birds
  • Non-snapping turtles larger than four inches
  • Certain reptiles
  • Honey bees

What animals can I not bring to New York City?

The list of animals that cannot be kept as pets in New York City is much longer.

Be aware that laws can differ between New York City and the rest of the state. For an exhaustive list of animals illegal to be kept as pets in New York state, check out this 25-page pdf produced by the New York Department of Agriculture. (More than half the list consists of a massive number of monkeys and snakes.) 

Some highlights of animals not allowed in New York include:

  • Black spider monkey
  • Tiger
  • Leopard
  • Coyote
  • Giant panda
  • King cobra
  • Swamp crocodile 

If you have a question about your particular pet, including your pet giant panda, contact the New York Department of Agriculture and Markets here.

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New York Firearm and Gun Laws (and Permits)

While laws can vary to some degree across the state, New York is known for having the strictest gun laws in the U.S.

Moving to New York with a gun can be tricky. If you have a permit to carry in your original state, you’ll have a grace period once arriving in New York state to obtain a New York state permit for your handgun, rifle, or long gun. But if you are moving to New York City, there is no grace period for weapons.

In other words, you cannot legally bring your gun with you when you move to New York City. 

New York Gun Permits (two permits are required in New York City)

Handguns and items that fall under the broad definition of “assault weapon” (as defined in the NY SAFE Act) are illegal to carry in New York without a permit. See that link for more details.

Specifically, in New York City, a special city permit is required on top of the state-issued permit to possess ANY kind of firearm. Long guns and rifles fall under a separate category and are, in some parts of the state, less tightly controlled. Unlike with handguns, it is actually legal to open carry a long gun in New York (though you still need a permit).

You’ll have to store it somewhere, surrender it to the authorities in advance of your move, or transfer it to someone who can legally hold onto it while you work through the process of obtaining a license to possess or purchase a handgun.

 

“…if you are moving to New York City, there is no grace period for weapons. In other words, you cannot legally bring your gun with you when you move to New York City.”

 

What is important to know if you are moving to New York is that the state does not necessarily recognize permits or licenses issued in other states. In other words, depending on your gun and your situation, New York may not care what sort of legal permission you have from your home state and declare that you are in violation of New York state or City firearms laws.

One exception is if you are legally licensed in your home state and are just passing through New York en route to another state where your firearm is legal and your permit or license valid. Even then your firearm must be unloaded and, separately from your ammunition, locked, and out of reach.

Once again, the above applies to New York state. In New York City, mere possession of a firearm requires a city-issued permit, even if you are just passing through. We suggest taking the long way around. Traffic is terrible anyway.

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What’s the penalty for bringing a gun to New York? 

In New York, gun-related offenses can rank anywhere from a class A misdemeanor, punishable by up to 1-year imprisonment and up to a $1,000 fine, to a class B felony, punishable by up to 25 years imprisonment.

New York Penal Code Section 265.00 and Section 400.00, along with all articles contained within, cover all you need to know. If you still aren’t completely sure how to navigate this sea of laws and you just have to bring your gun, contact the police or sheriff’s department in your new home county/municipality. If that doesn’t help you sleep better at night, get some quality legal advice. It’s better—and probably cheaper—than facing a weapons charge.

What other weapons are illegal in New York?

Aside from firearms, New York also has laws prohibiting owning other kinds of weapons.

Illegal weapons without a license Illegal weapons in any circumstance
BB guns Stun guns  Throwing stars (also known as Chinese stars and shuriken)
Paintball guns Switchblades  Various kinds of knuckles and clubs
Pellet guns Nunchucks  Slingshots

However, in 2019, the ban on certain of these, notably stun guns, tasers and nunchucks, was determined by the federal court to be unconstitutional. Yet the ban is, at the moment, still on the books. You may find resources asserting that stun guns, tasers, and nunchucks are legal in New York City, but the issue still seems to be unresolved. We suggest erring on the side of caution.

What about knives?

New York laws concerning knives are as convoluted as those pertaining to guns. State Penal Code Section 265 defines certain knives that are illegal, but in Section 265.01, it is stated that possession of “any dagger, dangerous knife…or undetectable knife with intent to use the same unlawfully against another” constitutes criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree. (That’s not a good thing.)

The American Knife and Tool Institute gives a rundown of New York statutes regarding knives with several real scenarios to illustrate how the laws have played out. Of course, this all pertains to people already in New York. For someone like yourself, hauling your stuff into the state in your car or on a rental truck, just having that illegal knife or billy club may be enough to get you into hot water.

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New York Plants and Produce Laws

House plants are generally not a concern when moving to New York, unlike many other states. But there are a whole host of plants that New York regulates, or even outright bans.

So before you put those potted pets on your moving truck, check the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation’s list of all regulated and prohibited plant species.

Prohibited plants 

New York defines “prohibited plants” as:

“Prohibited invasive species cannot be knowingly possessed with the intent to sell, import, purchase, transport or introduce. In addition, no person shall sell, import, purchase, transport, introduce or propagate prohibited invasive species.”

Regulated plants

New York defines “regulated plants” as:

“…species which cannot be knowingly introduced into a free-living state, or introduced by a means that one should have known would lead to such an introduction, although such species shall be legal to possess, sell, buy, propagate and transport.”

TERRESTRIAL PLANTS
PROHIBITED REGULATED
Amur Cork Tree Fly Honeysuckle Mile-a-minute Weed Black Locust
Amur Honeysuckle Garden Loosestrife Morrow’s Honeysuckle Burning Bush
Autumn Olive Garlic Mustard Mugwort Chinese Silver Grass
Beach Vitex Giant Hogweed Multifora Rose Japanese Virgin’s Bower
Black Swallow-wort Giant Knotweed Narrowleaf Bittercress Norway Maple Acer
Bohemian Knotweed Golden Bamboo Oriental Bittersweet Winter Creeper
Border Privet Gray Florist’s Willow Pale Swallow-wort
Broad-leaved Pepper-grass Japanese Angelica Tree Porcelain Berry
Canada Thistle Japanese Barberry Slender False Brome
Lepidium latifolium Japanese Chaff Flower Small Carpetgrass
Chinese Lespedeza Japanese Honeysuckle Spotted Knapweed
Chinese Yam Japanese Hops Sycamore Maple
Cogon Grass Japanese Knotweed Tartarian Honeysuckle
Common Buckthorn Japanese Stilt Grass Wavyleaf Basketgrass
Cup-plant Kudzu Wild Chervil
Cut-leaf Teasel Leafy Spurge Wineberry Rubus
Cypress Spurge Lesser Celandine Yellow Groove Bamboo

 

WETLAND PLANTS AQUATIC PLANTS
PROHIBITED PROHIBITED
Common Reed Grass Brazilian Waterweed
Marsh Dewfower Broadleaf Water-milfoil Hybrid
Purple Loosestrife Curly Pondweed
Reed Manna Grass Eurasian Water-milfoil
Yellow Iris Fanwort
Floating Primrose Willow
Frogbit
Hydrilla/Water Thyme
Parrot-feather

Why are some plants illegal in New York?

Grapes are a vital component of New York’s economy, so protecting them is critical. Any part of a grapevine or plant (aside from the fruit itself), if infested, can cause catastrophe to the grape and wine industry.

The same goes for other fruit-bearing plants, which can harbor invasive and/or destructive pests. If you need to bring such plant material into the state, each item must be accompanied by a certificate of inspection from your state of origin verifying that it is all disease and pest-free.

While there may be no legal requirement to have your house plants inspected and certified, it is a great (and shall we add noble) idea to inspect your plants for any signs of pests. And that includes eggs and anything else pests can leave behind. Make sure your plants are sitting in pest- and disease-free soil. (For the same reason, please leave your firewood and scrap lumber behind.)

The USDA regularly updates its list of plant and pest programs. Check for any notices regarding New York or the northeast in general.

Is marijuana legal in New York?

Yes. In March of 2021, New York state passed a law decriminalizing marijuana—but to a degree. 

It is now legal in New York to possess up to three ounces of marijuana outside of one’s residence, and up to five pounds of marijuana in one’s home. But it is also, as of this writing, still illegal to sell marijuana.

On top of this, laws detailing the legal limits of owning and growing marijuana plants, as well as selling and distributing marijuana, have not yet been worked out, and will take time to implement once they are.

But all this only matters once you are physically inside New York, because federal law still prohibits carrying marijuana across state lines! Doing so opens you up to the possibility of drug trafficking charges. So unless and until this changes, you’ll want to leave mary jane behind with your friends.

To read more about traveling with weed anywhere in the country, click here.


“It’s Up To You, New York, New York*”

When it comes to the laws regarding transporting weapons, animals, and plants, the safest route to take by far is simply not to have no weapons and nothing exotic in your possession when you enter New York. 

We hope the above helps shed some light on this murky subject, but please, do not take any chances. Go directly to the New York State or NYC authorities—before you arrive—if you are not entirely certain of the legality of your situation. Get expert advice. Protect yourself. 

You’ve got a world of possibility and promise waiting.

*Lyrics made famous by Frank Sinatra, native of New Jersey

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